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Hi,

I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT kernel,
c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT kernel,
> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.

I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)

about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)

0.02$

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:

> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT kernel,
>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>
> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>
> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)

Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
improve your performance quite a bit.

I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
also package here for example:
https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:

> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT kernel,
>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>>
>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>>
>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
>
> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
> improve your performance quite a bit.
>
> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
> also package here for example:
> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid

I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing 10.04
when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2
different machines.. (ati & nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card
drivers on the first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS release...
but again, I'm def. not a guru !

cheers,
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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

On 11/13/2010 12:45 PM, gusano wrote:

> On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
>>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>>>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT
>>>> kernel,
>>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>>>
>>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
>>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>>>
>>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
>>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
>>
>> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
>> improve your performance quite a bit.
>>
>> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
>> also package here for example:
>> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
>
> I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing
> 10.04 when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2
> different machines.. (ati & nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card
> drivers on the first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS
> release...
> but again, I'm def. not a guru !

Testing a release just after its release is always a risk. You better
wait till the 'point one' version is out or wait some weeks / months.
10.04.1 is out already, so it is expected to be more stable and to have
fixed some issues, probably the ones you had to...

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

2010/11/13 rosea.grammostola <[hidden email]>:

> On 11/13/2010 12:45 PM, gusano wrote:
>>
>> On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>>>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>>>>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT
>>>>> kernel,
>>>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>>>>
>>>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
>>>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>>>>
>>>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
>>>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
>>>
>>> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
>>> improve your performance quite a bit.
>>>
>>> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
>>> also package here for example:
>>> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
>>
>> I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing 10.04
>> when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2 different
>> machines.. (ati & nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card drivers on the
>> first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS release...
>> but again, I'm def. not a guru !
>
> Testing a release just after its release is always a risk. You better wait
> till the 'point one' version is out or wait some weeks / months. 10.04.1 is
> out already, so it is expected to be more stable and to have fixed some
> issues, probably the ones you had to...

10.10 is the plan. The improved hardware support in 10.10 over 10.4 is
certainly one factor (important for a live boot distro). We're
thinking about kernels... it's on its way...

Dan

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

On 11/14/2010 12:49 PM, Dan S wrote:

> 2010/11/13 rosea.grammostola<[hidden email]>:
>    
>> On 11/13/2010 12:45 PM, gusano wrote:
>>      
>>> On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>>>>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>>>>>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT
>>>>>> kernel,
>>>>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>>>>>>              
>>>>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
>>>>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>>>>>
>>>>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
>>>>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
>>>>>            
>>>> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
>>>> improve your performance quite a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
>>>> also package here for example:
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
>>>>          
>>> I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing 10.04
>>> when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2 different
>>> machines.. (ati&  nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card drivers on the
>>> first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS release...
>>> but again, I'm def. not a guru !
>>>        
>> Testing a release just after its release is always a risk. You better wait
>> till the 'point one' version is out or wait some weeks / months. 10.04.1 is
>> out already, so it is expected to be more stable and to have fixed some
>> issues, probably the ones you had to...
>>      
> 10.10 is the plan. The improved hardware support in 10.10 over 10.4 is
> certainly one factor (important for a live boot distro). We're
> thinking about kernels... it's on its way...
>    
I thought that new drivers for hardware will also be added to a LTS
release... (?)

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Re: [puredyne] next release, based on 10.04 or 10.10?

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Are you going to wait from the rt kernel for 2.6.36?

2010/11/14 Dan S <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/11/13 rosea.grammostola <[hidden email]>:
>> On 11/13/2010 12:45 PM, gusano wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
>>>>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice because
>>>>>> a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has a RT
>>>>>> kernel,
>>>>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
>>>>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
>>>>>
>>>>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
>>>>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
>>>>
>>>> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
>>>> improve your performance quite a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
>>>> also package here for example:
>>>> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
>>>
>>> I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing 10.04
>>> when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2 different
>>> machines.. (ati & nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card drivers on the
>>> first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS release...
>>> but again, I'm def. not a guru !
>>
>> Testing a release just after its release is always a risk. You better wait
>> till the 'point one' version is out or wait some weeks / months. 10.04.1 is
>> out already, so it is expected to be more stable and to have fixed some
>> issues, probably the ones you had to...
>
> 10.10 is the plan. The improved hardware support in 10.10 over 10.4 is
> certainly one factor (important for a live boot distro). We're
> thinking about kernels... it's on its way...
>
> Dan
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On Sunday 14 November 2010 12:49:51 Dan S wrote:

> 2010/11/13 rosea.grammostola <[hidden email]>:
> > On 11/13/2010 12:45 PM, gusano wrote:
> >> On 11/13/10 12:11, rosea.grammostola wrote:
> >>> On 11/13/2010 12:05 PM, gusano wrote:
> >>>> On 11/13/10 11:25, rosea.grammostola wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm waiting for the 10.04 based release, but will the next release be
> >>>>> based on 10.04 or 10.10? I think 10.04 is a much better choice
> >>>>> because a) it has Long Time Support, so it's very stable, b) it has
> >>>>> a RT kernel,
> >>>>> c) 1010 offers not much more in terms of proaudio.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd vote for 10.10 seeing the nasty bugs with nvidia cards and default
> >>>> 10.04 :/ (i.e. blank screen, black screen, etc on boot)
> >>>>
> >>>> about RT-kernel, I thought this was becoming obsolete (ie have rt
> >>>> performance on non-rt-kernel) ? I might be wrong though =)
> >>>
> >>> Yes you can use a generic kernel. In some situations a RT kernel can
> >>> improve your performance quite a bit.
> >>>
> >>> I thought they where able to use Nvidia also with the RT kernels. See
> >>> also package here for example:
> >>> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid
> >>
> >> I was referring to the extremely boring issues I had while testing 10.04
> >> when it was released.. I couldn't even log in (no display) on 2
> >> different machines.. (ati & nvidia) that meant fixing graphic card
> >> drivers on the first boot, not very user friendly IMO for a LTS
> >> release...
> >> but again, I'm def. not a guru !
> >
> > Testing a release just after its release is always a risk. You better
> > wait till the 'point one' version is out or wait some weeks / months.
> > 10.04.1 is out already, so it is expected to be more stable and to have
> > fixed some issues, probably the ones you had to...
>
> 10.10 is the plan. The improved hardware support in 10.10 over 10.4 is
> certainly one factor (important for a live boot distro). We're
> thinking about kernels... it's on its way...

Can I vote for Alsa 1.0.23+?

my internal sound card won't work properly with lower versions.... at the
moment I'm having to use a script to overwrite the default alsa modules, which
are still at 1.0.21 or so in the Ubuntu kernels...

sincerely,
Marije

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